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  What to Do....Please Help. Awakening JW for a very long time

  by CovertsadJW in

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  good afternoon , .

  i have been having doubts for many years and as most jw's i have certainly not done myself a favor by suppressing all of my critical thinking.

  i am married with 3 kids and my wife and i are inactive, but my wife has made it very clear in speech and action that she wants to go to all meetings, field service, and indoctrinate our kids.

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  never a jw

  Dubstepped,

  I wasn't thinking of legal rights, but the individual rights that unfortunately even governments fail to protect. In this case there is two conflicting opinions on how to raise children, the opinion of the parent out of the cult and the opinion of the parent inside the cult. I think a reasonable arbiter would favor the parent outside the cult. What can be the arguments??? easy...shunning, no higher education, no blood transfusions, no association with worldly people, downright psychological abuse with talks and images about destruction, robbing of childhood time with countless hours in meetings and field service....etc.
  
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  What to Do....Please Help. Awakening JW for a very long time

  by CovertsadJW in

  1. social
  2. family

  good afternoon , .

  i have been having doubts for many years and as most jw's i have certainly not done myself a favor by suppressing all of my critical thinking.

  i am married with 3 kids and my wife and i are inactive, but my wife has made it very clear in speech and action that she wants to go to all meetings, field service, and indoctrinate our kids.

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  never a jw

  "she wants to go to all meetings, field service, and indoctrinate our kids"

  Your wife has all the rights, including offering herself as a sexual slave to the governing body (not kidding). However, she has no right to enslave her children to any cult. Not negotiable at all.
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses to settle sex-abuse case - San Diego Reader (California, US), Friday, January 12, 2018

  by darkspilver in

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  jehovah's witnesses to settle sex-abuse case - san diego reader (california, us), friday, january 12, 2018.

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  . @Bobby

  "What they possibly could pay out in settlements, they receive 100 fold in donations, so that’s not going to drain them in and of itself."

  You have a point. However the bigger drain comes from membership losses resulting from the negative exposure. The financial troubles for the WT are just beginning, but it will be a decades long process before they can even think about folding. Their portfolio of real estate is still quite healthy.
  
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  New to the truth

  by MatthewHewey in

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  i have been meeting with member's of the kingdom hall, and i have attended a few times now on sundays.

  i'd like to discuss experiences with this group since i'm new.

  so far, i love it.

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  never a jw

  ex-Mormon?

  next ex-JW,

  next ex-Scientologist?,

  next a member of Heaven's Gate type of religion

  next ashes

  You may want a make a correction to this path. Make a U turn ASAP
  
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  Loyalty.....the new buzzword promoted by the watchtower Bible and tract society

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  2. bible

  loyalty appears to be the buzzword constantly promoted by the gb at the moment.

  we hear it at conventions, assemblies, and meetings.. let's face it loyalty covers so much.

  shunning of family, friends etc.

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  Micah 6:8 revised version NWT 2013): He has told you, O man, what is good.And what is Jehovah requiring of you? Only to exercise justice, to cherish loyalty, And to walk in modesty with your God

  Micah 6:8 Jewish Publication Society (JPS) Tanakh: It hath been told thee, O man, what is good, And what the LORD doth require of thee: Only to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God.
  

  I think Jews know Hebrew better than the anonymous translators of the NWT 2013
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  How to Argue for Creationism

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  all creationist arguments follow an identical pattern.. first a quick way to remember the format - 'complexity, complexity, complexity; therefore god'.. now a more detailed guide to formulating an argument.. identify some complex feature of the natural world.

  a quick google search or nature documentary will quickly provide inspiration.

  creationist websites have hundreds of them you can copy-paste without attribution.. do no research at all on what is currently known about the evolutionary history of this feature.

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  Venus:"No, evolution and creation both are a matter of faith"

  Two things couldn't be farther apart. It's sad the state of things today; people still believe the myths and fables of 3,000 years ago were facts. Never mind that those myths are from the same book that requires stoning women who were not virgin at wedding day.
  
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  How to Argue for Creationism

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  all creationist arguments follow an identical pattern.. first a quick way to remember the format - 'complexity, complexity, complexity; therefore god'.. now a more detailed guide to formulating an argument.. identify some complex feature of the natural world.

  a quick google search or nature documentary will quickly provide inspiration.

  creationist websites have hundreds of them you can copy-paste without attribution.. do no research at all on what is currently known about the evolutionary history of this feature.

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  Old Navy
  

  "As in Mathematics, where certain relationships and identities are "obvious,""

  as in 2+2=5.

  That's not the Mathematics of Newton or Einstein. That's the math from .. what is it?... almost there...yes... from Oceania.
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  Leaked 2018 Elders Training Video RE: Elders Reviewing Pionieers

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. bible

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhq5viughny&feature=youtu.be.

  quite frankly im disturbed at the lack of love and compassion.

  especially for the first sister they talk about!.

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  never a jw

  840 hours/year, not counting time for meetings, assemblies, preparation for meetings, personal study and a bunch of other things related to the religion. That's a full time job, completely wasted. How can anyone defend organized religion anymore? It sucks the blood out of society and those who have decided to be productive.
  
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  Oprah For President!

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i hope hollywood helps make her the democratic nominee.

  she sounds like she’s testing out the waters.

  good luck ms. winfrey.

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  never a jw

  If we survive 4 years of Trump, then Oprah should be an improvement.

  Just like Trump, she is also a very successful business woman, far more popular TV celebrity and far more stable genius than Trump. She is also a self made millionaire who didn't inherit a penny, as Trump did. However, she is not qualified for the office of POTUS... but now that the standards are so low, why not? Imagine, a black woman president. Even after Obama (half black man), that's a big jump. She has my vote just for the novelty of being a first in two categories (black and woman) and overall a very likeable person
  
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  COLD today

  by wasone in

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  it's a cold 13 degrees fahrenheit in tennessee this morning where i live.

  glad i'm retired and don't have to work outside today.

  what about where you live.

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  never a jw

  Live in southern California, where this time of year temperatures are generally mildly cold (45-75F), but real estate prices are brutally high...why that is you may ask.

  In any given weekend, if I want the beach I only have to drive for 30 minutes. If I want the mountains and snow, I only have to drive for 50 minutes. If I want the desert, I just walk to it. If I want the forest, I just drive for 60 minutes. If I want to see Mickey Mouse, just drive for an hour.

  It all sounds good... doesn't it?... until you have to go to work 20 miles away and takes you 90 minutes to get there, and ninety minutes to come back... five days a week.